DynastesDee Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 What’s the largest Megasoma vogti adult you’ve seen or heard of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliathus Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 They can reach nearly the mass of Dynastes tityus (but not the length). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Im talking about the largest known length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliathus Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 12:56 PM, DynastesDee said: Im talking about the largest known length. Male vogti can definitely reach 50 mm, and possibly a few mm longer than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ark Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 The biggest one I've seen is about 53mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Was this male captive bred or wild caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ark Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 bred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 Is these species ever available in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlesforlife3 Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 Here and there I've heard of people getting them I just don't think it's a whole lot of breeders getting them its more people collecting for fun or pinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 9:40 AM, Beetlesforlife3 said: Here and there I've heard of people getting them I just don't think it's a whole lot of breeders getting them its more people collecting for fun or pinning. 99% of the beetle hobby here is just people collecting for fun, even the stuff for sale. Sleeperi and punctulatus are just the rare hobbyist offering some extras, but I've never ever seen vogti offered by anyone. Still, maybe someone else has seen them for sale? I only ask because there is vogti money chewing a hole in my pocket but it may be in the same pocket as the money to buy a unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 Why is Megasoma vogti is not in the hobby, when it’s the most common US Megasoma species? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 11:06 AM, DynastesDee said: Why is Megasoma vogti is not in the hobby, when it’s the most common US Megasoma species? Because there is not much in the part of TX that they come from, the hobbyists who have them tend to sit on them (not sell them, or in one case - only sell to Japan), and the people who know where they are don't share any of the information. I've driven down to that part of TX, setup a lights and came back with nothing. Have offered to buy from multiple people and also have asked several people for hints on where to look.. nothing yet (it's been years). Many more people (including myself) collect south of Tucson at well-known locations that are on public land and are easy to get to - and also in the time of year when all the other inverts are out. M.v., on the other hand, is found in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 ...AND, apparently, the guys who have access to them don't know how to breed beetles. I know for sure they one who only sells to Japan doesn't even try to breed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 Well, I wish the people that are breeding them in the US luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted July 10, 2021 Report Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 5:07 PM, DynastesDee said: Well, I wish the people that are breeding them in the US luck. ...Absolutely! I think so too! If we can get enough in the hands of people who can breed them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 To everyone that is trying to find Megasoma vogti. Frass at the bottom of large mesquite trees. Warm temperatures above freezing, all year long are good indicators to find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynastesDee Posted July 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 In The first 2 minutes of this video, it shows a large mesquite tree with possible Megasoma vogti frass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkaiWangisme Posted July 11, 2021 Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 8:14 PM, DynastesDee said: To everyone that is trying to find Megasoma vogti. Frass at the bottom of large mesquite trees. Warm temperatures above freezing, all year long are good indicators to find them. The issue is the lack of public land down there. I went down last year and ended up not lighting up bc of the lack of good sites. Went to west Tx the next day to do the Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted July 11, 2021 Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 7:43 PM, JunkaiWangisme said: The issue is the lack of public land down there. I went down last year and ended up not lighting up bc of the lack of good sites. Went to west Tx the next day to do the Davis Did you find anything in Davis? We are heading out there in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkaiWangisme Posted July 11, 2021 Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 9:15 PM, Beetle-Experience said: Did you find anything in Davis? We are heading out there in a few weeks. Chrysina woodi, glorisa, and Xylocrates I think. Would you be able to collect other inverts? I'm very interested in purchasing heros and various other inverts from there if you sell :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted July 11, 2021 Report Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 9:48 PM, JunkaiWangisme said: Chrysina woodi, glorisa, and Xylocrates I think. Would you be able to collect other inverts? I'm very interested in purchasing heros and various other inverts from there if you sell :). PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKim Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 @JunkaiWangisme @Beetle-Experience I went to Davis Mountains last year.. (UV trapping at one location only two nights straight) Found Chrysina gloriosa, was little late for C. woodi, found lots and lots of non-insect inverts with Alan, just outside tent.. lol. Found a single male of Xyloryctes thestalus. It was a dry season, with no water stream at all, everything was kinda dried out, and dying from low humidity, so it wasn't the best time of the year. No records of Megasoma vogti was even there when I researched ahead of trip. (actually couple weeks early for M. vogti too). I can't remember the name of place, but there was a protected area near Davis where M. vogti has been recorded multiple times. (look up either iNaturalist or BugGuide!) I tried to contact their office hoping I could access there, since overnight camping as well as hunting is allowed (in hunting season), but..... The office closed an hour earlier than posted office hours, so never even had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkaiWangisme Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 1:04 AM, JKim said: @JunkaiWangisme @Beetle-Experience I went to Davis Mountains last year.. (UV trapping at one location only two nights straight) Found Chrysina gloriosa, was little late for C. woodi, found lots and lots of non-insect inverts with Alan, just outside tent.. lol. Found a single male of Xyloryctes thestalus. It was a dry season, with no water stream at all, everything was kinda dried out, and dying from low humidity, so it wasn't the best time of the year. No records of Megasoma vogti was even there when I researched ahead of trip. (actually couple weeks early for M. vogti too). I can't remember the name of place, but there was a protected area near Davis where M. vogti has been recorded multiple times. (look up either iNaturalist or BugGuide!) I tried to contact their office hoping I could access there, since overnight camping as well as hunting is allowed (in hunting season), but..... The office closed an hour earlier than posted office hours, so never even had a chance. I went to Davis to light for a night, then backpack. I wasn't planning to find vogti there, gave up after San Antonio was a bust... Davis I went to early August, got 3 woodi, some gloriosa, and probably 30+ Xlyocrates, but the Xlyocrates didn't breed for me sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliathus Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 12:04 AM, JKim said: ...I can't remember the name of place, but there was a protected area near Davis where M. vogti has been recorded multiple times. (look up either iNaturalist or BugGuide!)... Surely, any records of M. vogti in the Davis Mountains are in error, as that area is much too far west for this species? I've not heard of vogti being found any further west than the area around Brackettville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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