Scarabs Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Hi I wanted to ask if flakesoil.com ships to the us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyes Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarabs Posted October 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Oh well. Thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cream_man Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 9:25 PM, Scarabs said: Hi I wanted to ask if flakesoil.com ships to the us Bugs in cyberspace sells flake soil in the US I'm pretty sure any interstate soil transport is illegal so I have no idea how BIC gets around that (I'm guessing it's not enforced domestically, or maybe autoclaved) I'm also almost 100% sure that international soil import from anywhere would be very enforced and probably include quite a costly fine. This is to prevent the spread of non native organisms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug slayer Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 If you want the fermented wood soil for beetle grubs insectbrothers Has some. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevink Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Maybe it's just a matter of having the information, I can't see any reason whatsoever for anyone to buy an organic material from overseas. I see so many sources for substrate, and there is another insect site that caters to the states- Insectnet.com, it's mostly lepidoptera, but it is all entomology and where I purchased my lucanus elephus grubs, live dynastes tityus adults, and live dynastes granti adults. And, perhaps it is just having the information, I've learned quite a bit in the short time I've been using this forum. What comes up first in a search, isn't always your best choice. Networking, and asking questions, which is what these forums are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Menagerie Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 1:42 PM, the_cream_man said: Bugs in cyberspace sells flake soil in the US I'm pretty sure any interstate soil transport is illegal so I have no idea how BIC gets around that (I'm guessing it's not enforced domestically, or maybe autoclaved) I'm also almost 100% sure that international soil import from anywhere would be very enforced and probably include quite a costly fine. This is to prevent the spread of non native organisms Flake soil is not technically soil because it is made from sawdust. Since the pellets used to make it are compressed and sterile, there are no regulations on flake soil made from Traeger or similar products, at least not for interstate transportation within the Continental US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cream_man Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 14 hours ago, The Mantis Menagerie said: Flake soil is not technically soil because it is made from sawdust. Since the pellets used to make it are compressed and sterile, there are no regulations on flake soil made from Traeger or similar products, at least not for interstate transportation within the Continental US. That makes sense, it's hard to know where the line is sometimes.. I feel like once it's begun the fermentation process who knows what sort of regional microorganisms might have colonized it.  I know that's a bit of a stretch and not APHIS primary concern but the laws surrounding all that stuff I think are intentionally vague to cover more situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevink Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 You could apply the question of legality to potting soil, all manner of organic soils, compost and amendments are shipped interstate, I doubt the local hardware store, grocery store or even a nursery has to go through any legal requirements to ship or receive soil and soil products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes TItyus hunter Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 You can get a permit from https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/resources/sa_epermits/eauth-epermits and buy some then you will be more secured and safe, or just buy from BIC and Insectbrothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I spoke to APHIS a few years ago about importing substrate from Japan, but after quite a bit of conversation they said it wouldn't really be feasible / possible. I know when I import beetles there can't be any soil - or anything that even looks like soil - in the shipment. I'm not sure how plant importers operate (I guess that might be why we get the odd invasive every once in a while, like Popillia japonica). I think imported soil has to go through a sterilization process at port of entry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKim Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I also heard, as Beetle-Experience has said, that "soil" or "plant matters" cannot be imported per USDA APHIS, and any wood material of oak CANNOT be imported.. So, technically, whether you get caught or not, you shouldn't import it. There are more than couple of sellers available in the U.S. that sells beetle substrate that can be used right away, so I would recommend you to buy from them... Beetle Source, Bugs in Cyberspace, Insect Brothers, US Beetles, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes TItyus hunter Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Flakesoil.com has cheaper flake soil but why buy them when you can make them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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