Greatwun Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 While on a collecting trip last Friday I came across a tree stump with fecal pellets inside. As I started digging through it I pulled out 5 dead Phileurus truncatus larvae that were cold to the touch along with one barely alive larva. Temperatures that day were in the mid 50's and the night before where in the mid 40's. It does not normally get this cold in Central FL and if it does its for a day or two. Its interesting to see that specimens may only be adapted to temperatures in the area they live in since P. truncatus can be found in other states, especially ones that get much more colder than Florida. It may also depend on how much insulation the tree or stump can provide for the larvae living within. I did not find an adult female living with the larvae inside this tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanas Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I wonder if tityus in florida don't overwinter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwun Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think it would depend on where they are found. Temp in Northern FL can vary greatly from that of Southern FL. And perhaps because of this (this is just a guess) Central FL could have the most larvae kill offs due to cold temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanas Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 hmm, very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarvaHunter Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 The only survivor just passed away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwun Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 That is too bad but I'm surprised it made it this long considering the condition it was found in. Tonight will be 39F and tomorrow night will be 34F. I wonder how bad this will affect larvae in the Central FL woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 they don't look dead to me. dead larvae turn a brown colour. Maybe they enter a diapause to get through the cold spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwun Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 They were definitely death. Still frozen from the cold weather they were exposed to. The cold weather was keeping them from turning that brown color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 hibernating perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatwun Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 hibernating perhaps? Nope definitely dead. And dried, almost as hard as a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarvaHunter Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 The only reason the one was found alive is because the larva was insulated from the others all around it. It was injured fom the cold and would have died anyway. I had it in perfect sub. When we found the lone survivor he was spitting stuff up. Hopefully that particular tree was just very poorly insulated, and the truncatus in normal dead trees survived. I think most the larvae in smaller diameter branches like the jewel beetle larvae that I found, froze and died. I guess the next few weeks will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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