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So, I’ve recently gotten back from Florida, and during my trip I found quite a few Romalea Guttata, and I was hoping someone could shed some light on their specific care requirements. I’ve heard they’ll eat lettuce in captivity, and that a mix of potting soil and sand does well for substrate (could potting soil be replaced with coco fiber?) how deep does it need to be? Also, what are their breeding and egg specifications? Thanks!

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I have successfully bred Romalea microptera (the only lubber in FL) with pure coconut fiber, but I have also heard they are fine with pure sand. The females need to be kept in small groups, or they will start fighting over places to oviposit. I have had them lay eggs in about 3-inch deep substrate. Lettuce works, but I would provide them with a myriad of options. I always gave them organic produce. 

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Microptera and Guttata are the same species, Guttata is just the newer name for the species (like gymnetis caseyi being revised to gymnetis thula). Do they eat most grasses too? Thanks!

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It is interesting that iNaturalist still uses microptera. I think that the better question is whether there is something these grasshoppers will not eat. I have had them eat popcorn and chips (I do not recommend it though). I even had one that was delighted to find a bit of chocolate frosting on the counter! 

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Wow, I guess they do eat everything lol

do the eggs require any special care? And do females have any specific requirements for egg laying? Also, do the nymphs mainly just eat during a certain time of day? Thanks!

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I think my results for oviposition were not ideal. I have only obtained a couple oothecas from my grasshoppers. The females lay eggs in the substrate, so maybe they like a different mixture? The eggs I did get were kept in moist substrate. I had the egg container on a heat pad at one point, but I do not think this is necessary and neither is hibernation. I have not heard of timed feedings, but I doubt it is an issue, especially in captivity, where the photoperiod can be unpredictable. 

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I helped maintain a colony for several years and while we kept them in containers with either a little cocofiber or just newspaper on the bottom, we'd place 32oz deli cups mostly filled with moist sand in with them, or watch for signs that a female was ready to oviposit and put her in her own 32 overnight. We didn't heat them, but I suppose they were close enough to the heat lamps they could have gotten a bit of extra heat. All that really does is speed up hatching time, it's not necessary to make them hatch.

It's R. microptera, this is the name used on the Orthoptera Species File and is the accepted name by the International Committee of Zoological Nomenclature.

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On 5/21/2019 at 1:50 PM, Bugboy3092 said:

Update: they’re now adults, although I’m not sure if they’ve bred, any wya to tell? Thanks!

When mine mated, the males rode on the females for several days, so it should be obvious when they have mated. 

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I used to sell these years ago.  Lived in FL and would catch them from my yard. 

If you post pictures of the adults I can sex them for you. 

But simply, females are larger, males are smaller.  The tip of the abdomen in males is round and in females it's pointed.  

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On 3/30/2019 at 1:08 PM, Bugboy3092 said:

Microptera and Guttata are the same species, Guttata is just the newer name for the species (like gymnetis caseyi being revised to gymnetis thula).

That is not quite right about the guttata being the newer name. It is actually the older name, which is why it has the validity. The primary name has validity over secondary or teritiary names. Unless there was a significant error or such revision, the "first name published" has the validity, and all else are considered as "synonyms."

In case of Gymnetis thula Ratcliffe, the population in the U.S. is separated from the population in Central (and/or Southern) America because of significant differences in morphological characters. Therefore, the U.S. population gets the name as a new species, and that's what happened with G. thula.

They are two very different cases.
1. guttata vs. microptera = whether which name published first?
2. caseyi vs. thula = U.S. population found out to be different species from southern population (G. caseyi).

Since the U.S. population of G. caseyi got new name as G. thula, the holotypic specimen (as well as all other type specimens used in species description) are from southern countries, outside the U.S.

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