beetlegeuse Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 I got these kids from Peter what feels like ages ago, but they've finally pupated for me. Started out with 4 and lost two as larvae, but it looks like I got lucky and ended up with one male and one female. Hopefully both manage to make it out of the pupal stage with no problem. Reasonably certain this one's female: And this one's male: Female on left, male on right: I made artificial chambers for them mostly because I was worried about some of the little worms I saw in their substrate. They were all relatively small ones, so I'm not sure that they would've done any significant damage even over time, but better safe than sorry. I'm a little concerned that the chambers I made might be too big, but I'll check in on them tomorrow and see if they've managed to turn themselves around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerHobo Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Congrats! I also got 4 from him, but unfortunately all of them died. Fingers crossed these little ones pull through and breed for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetlegeuse Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Thanks!! Ahh, I'm nervous... The male eclosed! I'm not sure if his positioning is normal or if I should be doing anything though, since this is my first time raising beetles (beyond having cultivated mealworms in the past) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garin Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Really nice pics. I also had 3 eclose last week. I checked the deli containers and there were beetles walking around on top. I didn't get to see the action since I never removed them from their original pupal cells. It's interesting that they are eclosing in June when in the wild they are generally not flying until late July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetlegeuse Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Thanks & congrats on your three! I know you said you didn't get to see the action, but would you happen to know approximately how long it takes for them to become active once they emerge from their pupal cases? And yeah, that is really interesting! I didn't actually know that about them since I'm not that familiar with this species. It's probably a coincidence, but I still can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with the recent heat wave sweeping through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garin Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 11:05 AM, beetlegeuse said: Thanks & congrats on your three! I know you said you didn't get to see the action, but would you happen to know approximately how long it takes for them to become active once they emerge from their pupal cases? And yeah, that is really interesting! I didn't actually know that about them since I'm not that familiar with this species. It's probably a coincidence, but I still can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with the recent heat wave sweeping through. Sorry, I have no idea because I wasn't paying attention to the pupal cell and when it eclosed. I just noticed one day a beetle roaming around on top. However, I don't think it's very long. Goliathus would know, he has been breeding them for awhile and is very detailed in his observations. Yes, it could be the heat. Good luck and keep us posted when it starts to become active and starts eating. I was surprised at how much they eat. (beetle jelly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetlegeuse Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Alright thanks! I'll hit him up. In recent news, the female just eclosed sometime last night/this morning, and I was lucky enough to get a shot of her while her she was still soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliathus Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 ...would you happen to know approximately how long it takes for them to become active once they emerge from their pupal cases? In my experience, punctulatus usually leave their pupal cells less than a month after eclosion. I'm not sure if they're ready to mate immediately upon emergence from the cell, but I always wait at least 5 to 7 days before introducing females to males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetlegeuse Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Goliathus said: ...would you happen to know approximately how long it takes for them to become active once they emerge from their pupal cases? In my experience, punctulatus usually leave their pupal cells less than a month after eclosion. I'm not sure if they're ready to mate immediately upon emergence from the cell, but I always wait at least 5 to 7 days before introducing females to males. Replying here instead of over PM so your answers can benefit anyone else who comes looking in the future: Good to hear; thank you! Would it be unwarranted to remove them from their pupal cells into a separate container? The one their pupal cells is in is rather small and doesn't have much room between the top of the foam and the lid, so it worries me that I won't be able to tell when they're actually active and ready to feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliathus Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I wouldn't attempt to move them to another container until they've had at least several days to partially harden, following eclosion. You could transfer each into something such as a 16 oz. deli container that's about 75% filled with substrate. You can either bury them, or just leave them on the surface. Either way, I'm sure that when they have truly become active, they will start to wander around noticeably, at which point you can try offering them some food. If they've just eclosed as of several days ago, you can probably expect to wait at least several more weeks before they fully harden and become active. Unlike butterflies and moths, most beetles' exoskeletons can't reach full hardness in just a matter of hours - it takes much longer, due to their heavy armor. Some beetles spend months in their pupal cells, following eclosion. However, this isn't necessarily because that's how long it takes for them to harden - it's often due to the fact that some species have a post-eclosion diapause, while they wait for seasonal changes in temperature / moisture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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