AlexW Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Importation of most beetles is supposed to be illegal in the US. I know that despite being exotic A. dichotoma is legal since it is captive bred and no longer imported. So why do I hear reports of C. metallifer and P. muelleri in America? I have also seen a video of Prionotheca coronata from Peter, which is obviously not exclusively captive bred and is probably shipped from Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Simple - unlicenced imports. Rearing or breeding or shipment of A.dichomata in the US also requires a permit, just because the beetleswere bred inthe US does not make them legal to possess live without a permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 So we are all outlaws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoegazer Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 It's the wild wild west. But this doesn't just apply to "exotic" beetles. Any of our native "potential" plant pest species of beetles need to have permits to be moving across state lines as well. And by "potential", I mean a beetle that eats any plant product at any life stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 That sucks. They eat rotten wood, which is somthing only insect rearers use! I wish they would take the time to learn about their life cycle before making laws about them. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoegazer Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Rotten wood is a plant product. That sucks. They eat rotten wood, which is somthing only insect rearers use! I wish they would take the time to learn about their life cycle before making laws about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, but it is a usless plant part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexW Posted December 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 Orin writes in the book that "P. coronata had survived a freeze that killed all the other animals at a reptile importer company" . He has also posted a pic of his own: http://beetleforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=116&hl=darkling&do=findComment&comment=446 Apparently officials care little for beetles, since frogs and snakes are more commonly smuggled. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trescubes Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I know this is a REALLY old post but I came across this: https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pqm/pdfs/laws-and-regulations/111-CCR-s3558-Insects-imported-or-shipped-into-within-CA-without-permit.pdf I think it's a really old link but thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Seems like we just covered all of this last month or so.. The only beetles you are legally able to keep without a permit are ones that: 1. come from your state and 2. were found in your state. There are some exceptions, but not many - and definitely not for: A. dichotoma, C. metallifer or P. muelleri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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