Ratmosphere Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 I want to import at least 3 species, one being the recently legal Goliathus goliathus. The process seems easy but the last step is entering my social security number on the site. It is required so there is no way around it. I am paranoid about identity theft, etc. I just get worked up about that kind of stuff. Would you enter your personal information to attempt to get a permit to import foreign species? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 No one? Dang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I would answer, but you know what I would say already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 True, I'm always paranoid. Did you ever try importing any other species using this permit? If so, were you denied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I was denied on another large millipede (not AGB) but that was at the state level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Wow! I just want to try and import Goliathus goliathus, Dynastes hercules hercules, and Dynastes hercules lichyi the legal way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 You can do Goliathus, but the others you will need a containment facility for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonablue Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Presumably this is a secure government website you're submitting the information to, yes? If it is I wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Yes. You can either: follow through with the permit clearance -or- wait until having a Goliath is a "normal" thing and you don't need a letter any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Also, I thought they didn't care about Dynastes species as much as others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 The only beetles that you don't need an actual permit for are: Bess Beetles (Odontotaenius disjunctus), dung beetles, ground beetles and now the three Goliathus I mentioned. Other than that nothing has changed regarding permitting. Everything else would need some type of permit or clearance. If anything had changed on Dynastes I would have posted about it - maybe some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 If I keep calling USDA/APHIS like you did for Goliathus species, do you think they might change their mind for some Dynastes species? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle-Experience Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 No, sorry. I have contacts there - and I was researching Goliathus and sending documents about their life cycle. If Dynastes had the same feeding habits it might work, or if things change with rotten hardwood being classified the same as food plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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