Ratmosphere Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 If you had to choose between a Dynastes hercules hercules that was cheaper, lower in size, and a slightly curved horn and one thats about 40 more dollars, bigger in size, and has a perfect horn, which one would you pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charx53 Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 I suppose that would depend on what you want it for. Personally, if I was going to use it and keep it as a specimen post death..I wouldn't mind to have either. If you'd want to use it to breed..perhaps you want the one that is bigger? I'm not sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrchidAlchemist Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Hmmm I think I would go for the larger one if I was going to breed but if I wasn't I would get the smaller one just because they're really awesome. I have two hercules hercules beetles (Though they're still larvae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Come to find out, both have curved horns. I'll just wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 My own Opinion key word ( Opinion ) #1 NO BROKEN LEGS #2 NO curved horn #3 NO swallow tail wings According to a taiwanese D breeder male size 130mm & female size 65mm is minimum, if one should choose to breed/offspring theory size 150mm & up For offspring 160mm & up/you may need male size of 160mm & female size 70mm or larger for better % chance Personally i would prefer WILD collected beetle for sure !! You seems very enthusiastic about beetles so why not go BIG !!! and take it to the next BEECULES level Maybe a health, well porportion, huge beetle is on the horizon 175mm !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I would go big but I don't have hundreds to spend on one species, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I would go big but I don't have hundreds to spend on one species, you know? i know someone who have nice Dhl bloodline 160mm protential, maybe we can work something out if you interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Under 550 dollars? Last time we connected your prices were kind of high! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 How about $250 a pair male & female Larvae shipping included/THE REAL McCoy GUARANTEED !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I would but how can I guarantee that I won't end up with a curved horn? The risk is too great to me. I'm at the point where I can't pay 175 dollars for a pair of beetles. By the way, do you have a list of beetles you have in stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 It seems the larger the beetle the higher the chance of curved horn but there are ways to decrease the risk im not specialized in rhinoceros beetles What i can do is offer you phone assistance if need to when im in taiwan Or we can trade for things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Awesome, keep me in your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinswither Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'd choose the smaller one for breeding as typically horn size is only partially heredity. Nurture plays a nice role in all of this too you know. As I have seen green ghost mantids have brown ones in there due to the environment. If I had the money, oh heck I choose the larger one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Me too. However, the larger one has a badly curved horn too. I was stupid not to jump on a 115mm Dhh with a perfect horn at a good price months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Awesome, keep me in your mind. Yes i will. Thanks I'd choose the smaller one for breeding as typically horn size is only partially heredity. Nurture plays a nice role in all of this too you know. As I have seen green ghost mantids have brown ones in there due to the environment. If I had the money, oh heck I choose the larger one. Bigger beetle is just higher % chance of big beetle that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Me too. However, the larger one has a badly curved horn too. I was stupid not to jump on a 115mm Dhh with a perfect horn at a good price months ago. But smaller one may indicate health issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 True! Dhh is definitely next on my pickup list, though I won't ever pay more than 200 for one. It's the last beetle I really want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 If i didn't have to travel & move so much/moved 23 times and counting i would go to Dhh native wild location & collect 10 adult pairs and go back collect some more every few years or so That is if you really into this species Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 100% would be interested, if it's the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Have you ever thinking about taking a trip and collect some wild ones It would be a trip to remember and really healthy beetle as well theory is they should produce up to 100+ healthy eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wouldn't want to to smuggle them back into the United States in that way. The trip itself would be awesome though! How much does a major wild caught pair of this species go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagtacus Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I wouldn't want to to smuggle them back into the United States in that way. The trip itself would be awesome though! How much does a major wild caught pair of this species go for? male size 100mm & undetermined female sizedepend on general wc size/$500 a pair is the cheapest price $3,000 is fair price for a pair of male size 150mm & female medium to large size Compair to a pair of WC 100mm Dorcus alcides price $6,000 in Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Dang, that's high! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewrune Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'd say just get a cheap one until you know this species better (the offspring can easily grow bigger than the dad) If you think you are already an expert in beetle breeding, then go for the larger one. Or if you are not breeding it, then look for a dried specimen. Should be a little cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmosphere Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Totally. Hopefully I could get a major by next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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