Kinshi Bottles

Chuck4th

Chuck4th

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Howdy!

Just wanted to see if there is any interest in kinshi bottles here on the forum.

I'm getting ready to make a few up, and wondered if I could make up some extras for anyone?

It looks like I'll be using mostly 20 oz Gatorade bottles and other wide mouth drink bottles.

Please let me know how many you would like to pre-order, and I'll pm you around Christmas if all goes well.

Then early next year I'll post them in the For Sale forum.

Please post any questions you have, and I'll see if I can come up with answers.

Thanks,

Chuck

 
Chuck,

I may very well have an interest in these around Dec of this year or Jan of 2016. How long can these bottles be stored, and still be good for Stag beetles?

Also, what are the biggest size bottles you are going to offer?

 
My plans are to recycle the bottles that I have available at home.

We drink juice that comes in 64 oz bottles, and could even use gallon jugs.

Unfortunately, my experiments so far produced mixed results, but I plan to keep at it.

 
For best results, the containers with prepared substrate must be steamed/autoclaved/cooked to a high enough temperature and for a long enough period of time to kill resistant spores of contaminants so that you can introduce some uncontaminated source of mycelium into a sterile, nutrient-rich medium. Most drink containers are unsuitable for this as the cheap plastic cannot handle temperatures that haven't even reached the boiling point of water.

 
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Yeah, I've seen this, though some do successfully use PET bottles.

My goal is to perfect a cold mushroom process, using only a sanitizer like peroxide to prep the containers.

Unfortunately, I live in a warm, damp climate, with lots mold and mildew.

Have you had any luck yourself?

 
I've never had any luck with cold sterilization as the only way to fully sterilize against some of the microbes that I have around me without heat is to use several kinds of chemicals. I've tried peroxide and bleach, but they've never really worked except to temporarily beat some of the contaminants back a little before they degrade and it has a chance to grow again from resistant spores. It doesn't really help much more to live in a dry environment either since it means there's more dust in the air carrying contaminants.

Heat sterilization has worked quite well for me and I've been making batches of mycelium for years now. The only time I get contaminants is if I'm not careful enough during inoculation or if the mycelium I'm transferring is contaminated during shipping and I don't set it aside long enough for the contaminants to show before inoculation. I made a batch of about 12 liters last month and so far, none are showing contaminants and the oyster muchsroom mycelium is 1/6 through.

 
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