HELP!! Beetle eggs turning clear and getting dents??

I recently dug out a few of my D. Granti eggs and set them aside so that the female still laying wouldn’t damage them(as well as mites), and I’ve discovered a good lot of them have gained strange looking dents overnight! Also, some have weird orange spots on the top, about three of them actually. A few have also turned a tad bit translucent, and completely hard. Please, if you have any advice or explanation for this, let me know! I’m very worried they have died for some odd reason, as the majority of them looked perfectly healthy yesterday!
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Update: I’ve decided to cover them all in about 2 centimeters of substrate I pulled from the bottom of the breeding box and misted the top. I hope it’s just they got a tad dehydrated and started to dent.

 
It is a bit hard to tell with the picture, but your substrate appears to be too dry, and you are correct that the likely cause is dehydration.

At the egg stage, these guys are not picky (at all) about what substrate they are in, *as long as they are moist*. Even sufficiently moist kitchen towel would do the trick as long as you swap out the paper towels to cleaner ones if the tissue starts to get moldy*. As for how moist - it should be about the same moisture content as how the soil would be if you first saturate it with water, then subsequently squeeze the substrate as hard as you can to drip out all sqeeze-able water. The resulting substrate from this process (after un-clumping them) is at a great moisture level for almost all dynastidae and lucanidae species.

It is possible to have larvae hatch on the surface of the soil, but for the exact reason you mentioned in the update (hydration) it's easier to keep them consistently moist deeper in the substrate. If you want to monitor their progress while keeping them deeper in the substrate, try making a few 1/3 inch dia x 1 inch deep** holes (with a pencil or a similarly shaped stick) in the substrate on the side of a clear container and put one egg in each of these holes. Although most non-isogenic D. granti are notorious for having huge variations in how long they take to hatch (a few weeks ~ 6 months) even from one laying female, this should give you a better idea of what the general batch-wide progress is like as long as you have more than just a couple to monitor.

Also, since I notice a fair bit of perlite, I'm going to hazard a guess that this substrate you are using might be used plant potting mix. Those perlite pebbles have a good chance of getting stuck in the digestive tracks of the larvae once they get large enough to ingest a small piece, since they are essentially glass crystals with microbubbles inside. In addition, plant potting mix tends to also have high nitrate concentration (and/or other components of NPK) depending on the degree to which they were used, so try using another substrate overall (fishkeepers can attest to the fact that what is a good concentration of chemicals for plants/algae is usually not good for animals). The eggs still appear have a fair bit to go until they hatch, so I think there will be enough time for you to go look for deciduous wood-based substrates, or get some from other breeders if you don't have them on hand.

As long as you moistened them enough, I think there's a good chance that most of the eggs will recover (maybe except some of them, like the super-dehydrated egg I see at the center of the picture).

Best of luck!

* You might be wondering at the back of your mind if the chemicals in the paper towel might do something. They may a bit, but for the purposes of rearing the beetles at the egg stage (and even a few days into the larval stage), it is fine (as for how I learned this - desperate times call for desperate measures -_-). There have been some studies (http://11e.devbio.com/wt2104.html) where chemicals in paper linings caused insects to have extra larval stages in some true bugs (leading to the discovery of insect juvenile hormone analogs), but that is only when they were continuously exposed to the source throughout the entire larval period, which for our case will definitely not be true unless someone wants to try giving their D. granti larvae a totally different diet.

** About 8mm diameter x 2.5cm depth, for all you fans of SI units.

 
Thank you so much!! I ended up realizing the substrate was WAY too dry upon better inspection, and moved them to a different container(with a lid!) and moistened up the soil quite a bit. I’m waiting on an order of flake soil to move the eggs to, as the perlite potting soil was intended just for the breeding box and not as a food source for the babies. Hopefully the addition of moisture will plump up the eggs again! As far as damage goes, will the slightly dented eggs still be hatch-able?? I’m hoping they’re just a tad dry but I don’t know exactly what they can withstand.

 
It's just a guess based on my prior experience with dehydrated eggs (but to a lesser degree with smaller dents), but I think your dented eggs will become smooth again after they get some adequate chance to soak in water. My main concern would have been if the eggs were at a way later stage in life (around when you see the spiracles as series of white dots), in which case such a dent may severely damage and deform whatever underlying structure was forming. But your eggs look relatively young (especially the skinnier rice-grain shaped ones) as far as egg-ages go, so I'd hazard a guess that they still have a fighting chance.

 
Also, to add just in case someone else new to the hobby reads this series of posts: when I mentioned "soak in water", I just meant letting the eggs passively draw in moisture from the surrounding moist environment, not literally having them sitting in a pool of water.

 
Also, to add just in case someone else new to the hobby reads this series of posts: when I mentioned "soak in water", I just meant letting the eggs passively draw in moisture from the surrounding moist environment, not literally having them sitting in a pool of water.
I actually really appreciate you coming back to clarify this. This sounds like the exact sort of silly misreading I would've acted upon when first starting out.

 
So I shouldn't keep my beetle eggs in my aquarium? XD

RexaDynastes3516 keep us updated! Fingers crossed you get your eggs rehydrated before any real damage set in!

 
I’ll keep you updated on the situation! So far it looks like the moisture was retained over night so they definitely aren’t drying out any further. Will leave an update reply once (and if!) they hatch!

 
So I shouldn't keep my beetle eggs in my aquarium? XD

RexaDynastes3516 keep us updated! Fingers crossed you get your eggs rehydrated before any real damage set in!
Hahahahahahah maybe if someone is willing and have the means, they can try hatching some beetle eggs in a dilute & bubbled buffer solution (basically a ciclid egg tumbler but having small bubbles pass through - for the "water" maybe one can use 50% diluted phosphate buffered saline). I think the chances of failure are quite high (esp around the hatching stage), but who knows, maybe we might discover something 😀

 
RexaDynastes351, the above comments but also - your substrate looks to be very coarse. The dents are likely from the eggs being pressed up against gravel (and lack of moisture). I would more them to very soft, moist substrate. Add a layer of compressed substrate to a container, add the eggs (not touching each other) then very carefully add a loose layer on top of them.

Steven

 
Already did this, but thanks! I’m waiting for my flake soil to come in the mail, as the current substrate is *temporary*. Don’t worry, the babies will get way better food than potting soil!

 
Yeah, I concur with the warning about perlite (the white granules). It is very bad to have in a mix with any insects. Fine sharp, fractured particles of silica have essentially the same effects as diatomaceous earth. Plus, if you're using a commercial garden soil mix, you have a shot at having an added fertilizer in the medium and sometimes even some systemic pesticides, like long-lasting synthetic pyrethroids. Bad news for insect culture.

Do yourself a favor and just avoid packaged potting soil mix.

I purchase pure Canadian sphagnum peat. Notice I didn't call it "moss" even though it is called that on the label.  That is because you don't use Sphagnum moss, you use peat. Different products.

It is fine and soft and makes a nice, uniform bed even for small eggs. And many beetles can actually eat it, since it is after all, just decayed plant material with a high cellulose/lignin content.

Just don't let it dry out. 

Do not keep it too wet in the bag, either. Seal the bag after use to keep it just slightly moist. Don't buy old stuff that is hard and dry or in broken bags that is soaked with water and stinking.

 
I used the potting soil just for the breeding box, the eggs have been transferred to a fermented oak mix for when they hatch. It was only meant to be temporary!

 
Forgot to update this, but the eggs ended up hatching just fine. They did well when I moved them into a container of flake soil, had 11 of them hatch out! They’re all L2-L3 currently, so far so good!

 
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