Ryan Minard Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hey, Orin, I do find it possible for your book to succeed. As soon as I get a copy (when I'm back from FL) I'll give it a read and then spread the word about it on my page! I really would love to help you out. I think beetle breeding could become popular in the US, as it is in Japan (and other asian countries). I'd be willing to help you out in any way possible. Maybe some mass advertising to groups around FaceBoo groups that fall into your potential following crowd? I don't know. I really would like to make the US a beetle breeding place, where one can drive a few miles to find another beetle breeder to trade with. That's the goal. AT LEAST... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Minard Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 As far as this hardback thing goes... maybe if this book really takes off, you can release a 2nd edition with a hardback cover and some new content (I have some Dorcus parallelus I could lend you this time if they are not in this one). I KNOW this is far fetched for now... but if this book meets your goals, then it is something to think about. Hell... I'd buy it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hey, Orin, I do find it possible for your book to succeed. Thanks Ryan I appreciate any help you can provide. I think the book is successful because it exists, it's a labor of love and I'm very happy with it. I didn't think I'd ever see something in full color and large format and not stapled together. I was only saying the sales will likely contintue to be very dismal, so far only two copies sold and both to my friends. It would be great to sell a thousand of them and be able to print them in a more cost effective manner but it's just not possible without a large investment and is realistically impossible after the fact (you couldn't unmake and unsell to redo). I guess it would be like working a decade to get to the olympics and being excited to even qualify but your family just says you shouldn't even go if you're not going to get the gold medal. I think we should be able to be proud of our accomplishments even if we aren't the superstar. I think the beetle guides have greatly helped the hobby over the years as before there wasn't anyone keeping beetles. Lastly, hardcovers normally preceed softcovers, I don't know if it ever has worked the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Minard Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I tell you... when I'm back from FL, and I put the money in the bank, you will have more copies sold . Haha! AT LEAST one. That I know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Page for beetle book with sample pages and links for purchase. It's up on Amazon and Barnes & Noble but not on Amazon.uk or the book depository yet. You could e-mail the publisher and ask. I don't know. It's up on book depository and nile.au but on amazon.uk it just made it on the list but is not yet available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Mines ordered, should be dispatched within 72 hours!! Resulto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I got it! not allowed it yet but managed ten minutes to browse through before being taken away until my birthday. Looks a great book!!!!!!!!!!! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Awesome book a must have for all beetle lovers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted August 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Hi Orin, hard covers don't cost that much extra. You'd be surprised. Johnboy, you may have been right though not in a mass production China option. The publisher mentioned there's a brand new printing process that makes color printing much cheaper, so much so that the price could be dropped, and hard cover added if it looks good (the final product may not be of decent quality and the paper has to be thinner for the machinery). The price would be even lower in paperback but I'd prefer to see it redone in hardcover. Of course the edition would need a new ISBN, reworked base file and license but it would be really nice if it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashku Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Why is this Book so good ? Is ths different to For the Love Stag /Rhinoceros Beetle ? Greetings, Mashku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Why is this Book so good ? Is ths different to For the Love Stag /Rhinoceros Beetle ? Greetings, Mashku. This book is good because it includes sections on rhinoceros and stag beetles as well as greatly expanded and updated information on flower beetles and jewel scarabs as well as chapters on rearing darkling and dung beetles and other groups. It is a much more comprehensive book written also for people who don't have access to mat, mushroom log, and other store bought supplies. It is very different from the Love of stag book since only the sections on flower and jewel scarabs in that book were written in 1999 by the same author and they are greatly expanded on here (the same author's chapter in For the Love on Phileurini is pared down). Various interesting groups are included and the concentration is on the Eastern Hercules beetle versus the South American Hercules in the rhino section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The hardcover version is now listed at Amazon.com and is presently on sale and qualifies for free shipping. The HC version is less expensive than paperback because the paperback had premium color printing and thicker paper while this is a less expensive color print option. http://www.amazon.com/The-Ultimate-Guide-Breeding-Beetles/dp/1616461322/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1345713126&sr=8-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Minard Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Is there a chance you might release a 2nd version eventually, with more on American Dorcus? Because I've been finding more and more about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanus Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I ordered the soft cover version (heard the picture quality was better) from Amazon on Wednesday, should be here within an hour or so. Cant wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanus Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Wooh, finally got it! Fantastic book! Very comprehensive, easy to read and full of great info on even some of the least common species. Not to mention all the awesome color photos! A little depressing though personally, not because the book lacks anything (quite the opposite!), but after reading it seems that I'm a little more limited on the species I can rear with maple (my only readily accessible native hardwood) All in all this is a fantastic book (WELL worth the money) and I recommend it to any serious hobbyist or anyone with even a slight interest in beetles! Thank you Orin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks Titanus! You can use maple but I've tried it as the primary food for a number of species and it always resulted in stunted and weak development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebbewocky Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Wooh, finally got it! Fantastic book! Very comprehensive, easy to read and full of great info on even some of the least common species. Not to mention all the awesome color photos! A little depressing though personally, not because the book lacks anything (quite the opposite!), but after reading it seems that I'm a little more limited on the species I can rear with maple (my only readily accessible native hardwood) All in all this is a fantastic book (WELL worth the money) and I recommend it to any serious hobbyist or anyone with even a slight interest in beetles! Thank you Orin! I've head good things about the oak wood pellets made by Trager as being an acceptable form of wood compost, once well rotted. Downside: you have to buy a lot of it if you're buying online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skink Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I really love this book. I just got the hardcover a bit ago and have been thumbing through it since, after devouring the entirety of its contents in an afternoon. If it wasn't for it, I wouldn't have felt like I was properly armed with the information I needed to keep and breed these creatures, and luckily it contained at least a little bit on all the species I currently want to work with, as well as bringing a few new ones to my attention for consideration. It is definetly a step in the right direction for the hobby you love so much and it sounds like, at least with me, it accomplished its goal. I do feel like it could have been improved upon in some ways, but those ways are very few, and all completely organizational - something of a moot point, considering it is actually many books in one. Despite the repitition on some points between chapters and the differences in elaboration, there are few things I would change about what's there! Definetly a must have, with how sparse solid nuggets of information are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashku Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I got my copy @ Amazon.com ! Yes of cours it is good, no it is supreme ! Greetings, Mashku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynastes Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Nice ill be buyingDid you get a copy, if so what did you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisserdude Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I have this book and it is my favorite book I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarvaHunter Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Orin's book, The ultimate guide to breeding beetles is a great book in my opinion. I have Chinese books and they are all pretty cheap softcover's. Orin's book is well written and made of quality materials. Orin, thank's for not shipping more jobs to China just to make more profit off low quality materials and cheap Chinese labor, bad quality control etc... Nice to see people who actually care about their reputation and Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philibugman Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Finally got it, and love it. Orin's compendium to breeding beetles. I am just sorry I waited so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipee32 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 I bought one its my first beetle book. I'm a noob to the beetle world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsectaJaeger888 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I have this book as well as his other book on invertebrate exhibiting and breeding both books are full of useful information. In terms of The Ultimate Guide to Breeding Beetles McMonigle goes over the most popular types of beetles in the hobby as well as both exotic and domestic species. However I will say that in terms of some of the additional breeding information on exotic species of beetle mainly rhinoceros and stag beetles the info. is condensed. I only say this because I own a beetle breeding book from Taiwan titled For the Love of Rhinoceros and Stag beetles 2nd edition and the information the two book set provides is similar but has some contrasts for certain species and more extensive information. However of the two books McMonigle's had a wider range of beetle species and provides information for a wider range of species overall as he has taken the time to first and foremost include information about native North American species which seems to be priority in most of the categories (Dung beetles, Rhinoceros beetles and stag beetles) over providing more extensive information about exotic species ( which is safe to say is because his sales market for this book is mainly in the US and thus providing knowledge but also abiding by not encouraging illegal ownership of exotic beetles in the US) Which he does give a warning to the readers in the epilogue of the book. I have yet to see if these methods are successful as I have yet to own any large beetles such as stag or rhinoceros beetles yet in order to test out and experiment with the methods of Orin Mcmonigle and compare them to that of Taiwan and thus also Japanese beetle breeding techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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