If I had a food source for them, I might consider another shot at it, but this whole thing has cost me so much money and 2 years of my time. Not saying that I minded waiting, but it was such a disappointment. The substrate is hard to get unless you order it from Taiwan, and the stuff you can get here is probably not going to be the best. Now I have 2 girls, and they probably won't be around much longer....they are already about 5 months old. I had planned to dry and frame the males once they lived out their life, but now I just have the females. I may dry them once they pass, who knows. Speaking of that, would a food dehydrator work to dry them? Anybody know?