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#1 Hyperdistortia

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:18 PM

Hey, guys. Overly-cautious Hyperdistortia back at it again with the substrate questions.

Ok, so I know good A. dichotoma substrate needs to be mostly leaf litter and rotten oak or beech wood.

It also needs to be VERY fine as to allow the larvae to consume it faster so they can spend less time chewing and more time just growing (I think).

 

So, once I go Into The Woods and find some rotten or decaying pieces of oak and lots of dead leaves, how do I mix and grind them to a fine substrate?

Do you guys usually go to a sawmill place and ask to use their wood chippers or something?

 

Again, thanks for all the info, guys. I really want to make sure I can actually go through with raising larvae into imago and that I'm not inept, haha.



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:40 PM

Nutri bullet or similar type of blender works fine.



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Posted 07 October 2017 - 11:39 PM

Gotcha. I'm gonna be doing the wood/leaf collecting tomorrow.

The wood needs to be rotting and should come apart by hand pretty easily, right?

And the leaves have to be broad-leaf, but I'm not sure what color ones to get.

Are the freshly fallen orange ones ok, or do I need something that's been dead for a couple of months?

And what was that ratio again?



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Posted 08 October 2017 - 05:42 AM

I use dead ones that can be crunched with ease.



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Posted 08 October 2017 - 08:44 AM

Use oak leaves they are very easy to identify, I use a electric leaf sucker that has a bag and run it through it twice, for mixing just mix it by hand to get the consistency right.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:56 PM

On the forest floor dig down to the bottom layer of leaves (a yellowish pale color) that can be easily shredded by hand, I usually just shred them by hand.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:28 PM

Thanks, guys. I'm gonna have to postpone the search until tomorrow because of the hurricane.

Any good tips for finding rotting fallen oak trees?



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Posted 08 October 2017 - 04:45 PM

Also, I have some Bob Red's Premium Soy Protein Powder.

I've heard mixing this in with the substrate is good for growing big beetles/major males (I'm not quite sure about this, though).

But that if you have too much in the substrate it will attract mites.

Should I even bother with the stuff? Will it yield good results?

 

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:19 PM

I wouldn't bother haha. Never used additives. Some people do, some don't. 



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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:44 PM

I use dead ones that can be crunched with ease.

Its easier if you roll dead leaves under your feet in a tub ;)


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:29 AM

Alright, no soy for the grubs, haha.

Wouldn't want giant kabutomushis taking over Mississippi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or would we?



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:24 AM

Alright, no soy for the grubs, haha.

Wouldn't want giant kabutomushis taking over Mississippi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or would we?

I WOULD, LOL


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:19 AM

Quick, someone Photoshop a picture of a kabutomushi in Jackson, MS.



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 04:02 PM

Quick, someone Photoshop a picture of a kabutomushi in Jackson, MS.

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